tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28694758.post6238736712944445389..comments2023-12-03T12:27:19.311-05:00Comments on Patchalot More: WHAT DO YOU SEE?MARCIEhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01239774105939045673noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28694758.post-67612085090473674802008-01-17T12:20:00.000-05:002008-01-17T12:20:00.000-05:00Marcie, as you said, this symbol was used much ear...Marcie, as you said, this symbol was used much earlier, with many positive connotations, than the Nazis. It is still used in traditional ceremonies, like weddings, in India, today. <BR/><BR/>My personal opinion is that we should use it again, with the positive connotations, and take the symbol back from Hitler. It can only stop being a symbol of the Nazis when we use it as a symbol of peace and prosperity.Shelinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09870112367076954109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28694758.post-9834090200590051012008-01-17T03:36:00.000-05:002008-01-17T03:36:00.000-05:00I didn't see a swastika until you mentioned it, b...I didn't see a swastika until you mentioned it, but now that seems clear for me, even if it is obviously not the case. Your quilt is very nice, but so far as I'm concerned, I would not use this block today, because even if this cross is very old, its impact as nazi symbol is strong and it is always used by the neo-nazis.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28694758.post-41193206523182296632008-01-16T18:15:00.000-05:002008-01-16T18:15:00.000-05:00Hi - I have a very strong opinion about this block...Hi - I have a very strong opinion about this block. I immediately saw Swastikas and therefore took an instant dislike of this quilt. I can't see past the symbol and would wonder why anyone would want to make this block when there are so many other less symbolic blocks to make. Please don't take my comment as an offense, but as someone speaking very openly. - Sincerely, Gail in CanadaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28694758.post-58854388984308984182008-01-16T17:10:00.000-05:002008-01-16T17:10:00.000-05:00Looks like a swastika to me! Probably my age has ...Looks like a swastika to me! Probably my age has something to do with it. And, since our Iranian neighbor is so anxious to follow along the same path as the swastika, I won't make this block. Don't mean to offend anyone, but this is jmho.Perryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14450995984017232831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28694758.post-12818935113540124522008-01-15T19:55:00.000-05:002008-01-15T19:55:00.000-05:00Wikipedia has an amazing history of the swastika d...Wikipedia has an amazing history of the swastika dating back over 3000 years - worth reading! There is a big movement in Europe for Hindu's to "take back" the swastika. I always knew that pattern as flyfoot.Evelyn aka Starfishyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12025353776081066815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28694758.post-38986111135522577272008-01-15T16:05:00.000-05:002008-01-15T16:05:00.000-05:00Hi Marcie, it's a very charming old quilt, and the...Hi Marcie, it's a very charming old quilt, and the fact it lives on with owners who cherish it and feel sentimental about it is enough.<BR/>I did see and recognize the pattern instantly, and it' snot one I would piece. As with the issue of slavery in the south, it's fairly clear it still rankles. But the choice is yours, and if you choose to make the pattern, never feel the need to apologize for doing so *VBS* Big hugs, Finn<BR/>P.S. Love the bright and wild fabrics she used!!Finnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17677133672404343036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28694758.post-59622347367606606082008-01-15T12:40:00.000-05:002008-01-15T12:40:00.000-05:00I've always known the block as "Flyfoot". It's a p...I've always known the block as "Flyfoot". It's a pretty quilt and well loved, that's what I see!Mrs. Goodneedlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07453388163219666450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28694758.post-28633719639412267462008-01-15T07:25:00.000-05:002008-01-15T07:25:00.000-05:00What a nice post.I've always seen the Whirligig. ...What a nice post.<BR/><BR/>I've always seen the Whirligig. its a neat pattern actually and I've always liked it.*karendianne.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15557033346962825857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28694758.post-44989521053650926422008-01-15T05:29:00.000-05:002008-01-15T05:29:00.000-05:00How sweet memories you and your husbad had with th...How sweet memories you and your husbad had with this antique quilt. I enojyed reading your post. :-)<BR/>This quilt is so beautiful. I agree with you about how the quilts should loved and cared.:-)<BR/><BR/>about blocks, I didn't see a Swastika. But I saw Whirligig and Fly foot....Leahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02484673684683780703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28694758.post-28643032104708705172008-01-15T04:06:00.000-05:002008-01-15T04:06:00.000-05:00I often read your blog and today the first thing I...I often read your blog and today the first thing I thought.......swastika! The quilt is nice and it is so good to have an old quilt in the house and the pattern will be a challenge to make.<BR/>It is a very very old pattern indeed, but the scars of the 2nd World War are still in many families in Europe, in my family too, though we do not belong to the people that were pursuited. I was born after the War and today I live near the German border, though borders hardly exist in Europe (I do my shopping in Germany), but this symbol is still 'not done'. I hope this will fade away.........<BR/>Hartelijke groeten uit Nederland!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28694758.post-41339445494041889272008-01-14T23:52:00.000-05:002008-01-14T23:52:00.000-05:00I did notice the swastika pattern, but only becaus...I did notice the swastika pattern, but only because you titled the post "What Do You See." Otherwise, I probably wouldn't have thought about it. Oddly enough, if you look at the floor plan of my office, you'd see that it is also a swastika. I'm sure it wasn't planned to look like one, but it sure does! Truly, I think it's just a common design and has been around far longer than the Nazis!Kimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05365964667029948020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28694758.post-60976706028404108072008-01-14T22:39:00.000-05:002008-01-14T22:39:00.000-05:00Some comments you've gotten Marcie, But to me it's...Some comments you've gotten Marcie, But to me it's a great probably 20'30's quilt. I had to look close at that block to see the flying geese. I could see Bonnie making this in her scrappy way. I was more concious of the wide sashing. and the quilting which you can see in the closeup. Unusual. Great buy. Who cares if it is worn, It was well loved.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08205961618402944320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28694758.post-15446083748271074112008-01-14T18:06:00.000-05:002008-01-14T18:06:00.000-05:00I never thought swastika when I saw it. I thought ...I never thought swastika when I saw it. I thought flying geese they didn't quite see them and looked closer. I like them also done in the same color patterns so you have 2, 2, 2, and 2 flying geese, but the switch in color makes it really interesting.<BR/><BR/>Make one!Judyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14059454522337423829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28694758.post-6499646100500201052008-01-14T17:29:00.000-05:002008-01-14T17:29:00.000-05:00No, even though it is really merely a geometrical ...No, even though it is really merely a geometrical pattern, I would never make it or even a pinwheel pattern either.Rosalyn Manessehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07732466850346976888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28694758.post-45071822689916360602008-01-14T12:39:00.000-05:002008-01-14T12:39:00.000-05:00I see pinwheels. Those lovely toys we had as kids...I see pinwheels. Those lovely toys we had as kids that swirled with a good breeze. Comfy quilts are the best!Gypsy Quilterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18192303145122990677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28694758.post-5207521113628751702008-01-14T08:02:00.000-05:002008-01-14T08:02:00.000-05:00Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder! I saw the w...Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder! I saw the whirligig! If I'm not mistaken the original meaning of Swastikas is related to good luck and was often use within both Eastern & Western religions. It is quite an ancient symbol having meaning way before the Nazi took it on. I do like the block! Looking forward to reading what you decide on the challenge.Carolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05969304332997075970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28694758.post-10173176827076273892008-01-14T00:17:00.000-05:002008-01-14T00:17:00.000-05:00You know , I saw a great quilt for sale on the web...You know , I saw a great quilt for sale on the web the other day and was tempted to buy it but decided I'd rather save the money and purchase an old quilt. I have 3 in my collection so far that I love plus tops old tops off EBay that my original intention was to finish.<BR/><BR/>I didn't really notice the Swastika right away, probably because of the blendy fabrics. It would be more noticeable I'm sure with more contrast. You could always make a few blocks and see how they looked. If they screamed swastika at you...then I probably wouldn't make a quilt with this block.Mary Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07801947879882584734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28694758.post-85263174272952471012008-01-13T22:51:00.000-05:002008-01-13T22:51:00.000-05:00The swastika is an ancient symbol (3000 years old)...The swastika is an ancient symbol (3000 years old) and the used for a very very long time before the Nazis got hold of it. It has has positive connotations up into the 20th century. The history is interesting. I'm sure there are other sources but here's one...<BR/> http://history1900s.about.com/cs/swastika/a/swastikahistory.htm<BR/><BR/>Interestingly they say that in England it was called a flyfot. I guess that's about as close to flyfoot as you can get!<BR/><BR/>It's a lovely quilt and quite obviously a great conversation starter!!! LOLKatiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12561892583686450813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28694758.post-38731975262864657452008-01-13T19:50:00.000-05:002008-01-13T19:50:00.000-05:00I don't know. It is a pretty quilt and I for one w...I don't know. It is a pretty quilt and I for one would like to see the block re-claimed for beauty rather than evil. HOWEVER, I made that statement less than 10 years ago and was throughly "flamed" by a well-known Oregon quilt shop owner. Although, it seemed at the time that others on the list objected to the "flaming," I'm thinking that it may take yet the passing of another generation or 2 to make the reclaiming possible.<BR/>But it is a very pretty quilt and the block has so much potential.Lindahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08450792092084530798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28694758.post-69763080996124669552008-01-13T18:46:00.000-05:002008-01-13T18:46:00.000-05:00I don't know that I really see a swastika . . . b...I don't know that I really see a swastika . . . but I miss alot *s* It's a darling quilt and I see no reason to not recreate it if the mood strikes you - go for it.Libbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17872055894285312153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28694758.post-16410904298810177782008-01-13T16:06:00.000-05:002008-01-13T16:06:00.000-05:00I've always known that block as "flyfoot", althoug...I've always known that block as "flyfoot", although I don't think I've ever made one. There are lots of things that look like other things, and I think you can't worry about all of them! The dictionary says that the Nazi symbol had a clockwise bend in the arms, so how about if you make your quilt blocks with a counter-clockwise bend? (like the ones in your antique quilt)floribundahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04580721857582350448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28694758.post-88895583983389008582008-01-13T15:03:00.000-05:002008-01-13T15:03:00.000-05:00Well I did not see a swastika at all. I saw whirly...Well I did not see a swastika at all. I saw whirlygigs. <BR/><BR/>But I, like you I'm sure, would hate to offend anyone unknowingly. <BR/><BR/>I think the beauty of the quilt is what folks would notice. Perhaps a bit of "looks familiar" would come about but really, the fabrics and colors give the whole piece a different quality. How can anyone see something awful in something so beautiful?Beckyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09140530325649071135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28694758.post-17638565982270959652008-01-13T14:44:00.000-05:002008-01-13T14:44:00.000-05:00I didn't see a swastika until you mentioned it. I ...I didn't see a swastika until you mentioned it. I think fabric choice will have a huge impact on whether or not people will see a swastika on your finished project.<BR/><BR/>I know a lot of people will agree with Dot, but remember -- that symbol had a very long and positive history before the Nazis decided all that good history should be attached to their causes.DPUTigerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04972128797520034784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28694758.post-35665679720612412592008-01-13T11:39:00.000-05:002008-01-13T11:39:00.000-05:00I don't know if ever enough time will pass to brin...I don't know if ever enough time will pass to bring this back. I immediately thought swastika. It is a shame when a perfectly benign symbol is taken and distorted for evil. It is a nice block but I don't think I could personally make it. A stated by Darlene different people are going to see different things. I will say the quilt is lovely.dothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14648984294507789296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28694758.post-66916331069709377542008-01-13T11:21:00.000-05:002008-01-13T11:21:00.000-05:00I think enough time has passed that many would enj...I think enough time has passed that many would enjoy making this block. A friend found a stack of blocks like these at an antique shop a few years ago and we all went nuts when we saw them - we didn't see the pattern as a swastika but as a whirly gig. Later another friend was looking at them and "saw" the swastika - interesting conversation after that.<BR/><BR/>I love the story about the quilt.Darlenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06889819189264646562noreply@blogger.com